{"id":55007,"date":"2014-05-13T11:23:44","date_gmt":"2014-05-13T09:23:44","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.toutsurmesfinances.com\/impots\/revenus-fonciers-ne-pas-deduire-les-charges-recuperables.html"},"modified":"2021-12-08T11:01:26","modified_gmt":"2021-12-08T10:01:26","slug":"revenus-fonciers-ne-pas-deduire-les-charges-recuperables","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.toutsurmesfinances.com\/impots\/revenus-fonciers-ne-pas-deduire-les-charges-recuperables.html","title":{"rendered":"Revenus fonciers : \u00ab Ne pas d\u00e9duire les charges r\u00e9cup\u00e9rables \u00bb"},"content":{"rendered":"<section class=\"l-section wpb_row height_small\"><div class=\"l-section-h i-cf\"><div class=\"g-cols vc_row via_flex valign_top type_default stacking_default\"><div class=\"vc_col-sm-12 wpb_column vc_column_container\"><div class=\"vc_column-inner\"><div class=\"wpb_wrapper\"><div class=\"wpb_text_column\"><div class=\"wpb_wrapper\"><p><strong><span style=\"background-color: transparent; line-height: 1.3em;\">Toutsurmesfinances.com : En dessous de 15.000 euros de revenus fonciers, un propri\u00e9taire peut choisir entre le r\u00e9gime micro-foncier et la d\u00e9duction des frais et charges r\u00e9els. Dans quelle situation le r\u00e9gime r\u00e9el s&rsquo;av\u00e8re-t-il plus int\u00e9ressant ?<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>H\u00e9l\u00e8ne Bouvignies :<\/strong> Si les loyers hors charges touch\u00e9s par un propri\u00e9taire ne d\u00e9passent pas 15.000 euros, l&rsquo;int\u00e9r\u00eat du r\u00e9gime r\u00e9el d\u00e9pend du montant des charges. Le micro-foncier permet de b\u00e9n\u00e9ficier d&rsquo;un abattement forfaitaire de 30% au titre des charges. D\u00e8s lors, si les charges d\u00e9passent 30% des revenus fonciers enregistr\u00e9s, la d\u00e9claration au r\u00e9el est int\u00e9ressante.<\/p>\n<p>Un propri\u00e9taire qui a touch\u00e9 10.000 euros de loyers hors charges en 2013 et dont les charges d\u00e9passent 3.000 euros peut ainsi opter pour le r\u00e9gime r\u00e9el plut\u00f4t que le micro-foncier, en sachant que cette option est maintenue pour trois ans. En revanche, un propri\u00e9taire qui n&rsquo;a ni travaux ni int\u00e9r\u00eats d&#8217;emprunt \u00e0 d\u00e9duire et qui g\u00e8re lui-m\u00eame sa location n&rsquo;a pas lieu d&rsquo;opter pour le r\u00e9gime r\u00e9el.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Certains bailleurs en copropri\u00e9t\u00e9 ont des difficult\u00e9s pour remplir la ligne 230 \u00ab R\u00e9gularisation des provisions pour charges d\u00e9duites au titre de 2012 \u00bb sur <a href=\"http:\/\/www.impots.gouv.fr\/portal\/deploiement\/p1\/fichedescriptiveformulaire_9032\/fichedescriptiveformulaire_9032.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow noopener noreferrer\">le formulaire 2044 de d\u00e9claration des revenus fonciers<\/a>. Quel est le probl\u00e8me ?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Pour les bailleurs en copropri\u00e9t\u00e9, tout se r\u00e9sume sur les lignes 229 et 230 sur l&rsquo;imprim\u00e9 2044. La ligne 229 \u00ab Provisions pour charges pay\u00e9es en 2013 \u00bb correspond aux charges support\u00e9es par le propri\u00e9taire mais toutes ne sont pas d\u00e9ductibles. C&rsquo;est surtout le cas des charges locatives r\u00e9cup\u00e9rables. Pour rester simple, il faut inscrire en 2014 \u00e0 la ligne 230 toutes les charges d\u00e9duites en 2013 que vous n&rsquo;aviez pas le droit de d\u00e9duire.<\/p>\n<p>M\u00eame si vous n&rsquo;avez pas r\u00e9cup\u00e9r\u00e9 r\u00e9ellement les charges aupr\u00e8s du locataire, le fisc consid\u00e8re qu&rsquo;elles le sont et que vous ne pouvez donc pas les d\u00e9duire. Il est tr\u00e8s important de remplir la ligne 230 : dans le cas contraire, vous n&rsquo;enlevez rien au montant des charges d\u00e9ductibles. Le fisc peut alors devenir suspicieux et vous opposer un contr\u00f4le fiscal.<\/p>\n<p>Les propri\u00e9taires d&rsquo;immeubles hors copropri\u00e9t\u00e9 n&rsquo;ont pas ce probl\u00e8me. Il leur suffit de d\u00e9clarer leurs loyers hors charges et de d\u00e9duire tout ce qu&rsquo;ils ne peuvent pas r\u00e9cup\u00e9rer aupr\u00e8s des locataires.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Autre subtilit\u00e9 \u00e0 ma\u00eetriser, le calcul du r\u00e9sultat foncier et la r\u00e9partition d&rsquo;un d\u00e9ficit&#8230; Quelle d\u00e9marche faut-il suivre ?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Sur la derni\u00e8re page du formulaire 2044, vous devez indiquer un b\u00e9n\u00e9fice ou, le cas \u00e9ch\u00e9ant, un d\u00e9ficit. Si le r\u00e9sultat est positif, le montant du b\u00e9n\u00e9fice s&rsquo;ajoute simplement \u00e0 votre revenu soumis au bar\u00e8me de l&rsquo;imp\u00f4t sur le revenu. En cas de perte, le montant du d\u00e9ficit, hors int\u00e9r\u00eats d&#8217;emprunt, s&rsquo;impute sur le revenu imposable global dans la limite de 10.700 euros. Le surplus et les int\u00e9r\u00eats d&#8217;emprunt vont s&rsquo;imputer sur les revenus fonciers des ann\u00e9es suivantes. Les d\u00e9ficits ainsi g\u00e9n\u00e9r\u00e9s peuvent \u00eatre absorb\u00e9s sur 10 ans.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<table style=\"background-color: #e0e0dd; width: 100%; border: #b0b0b0 thin solid;\" border=\"0\">\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<td>\n<h2 style=\"text-align: center;\">Les travaux d\u00e9ductibles<\/h2>\n<p>\u00ab <em>Les factures doivent \u00eatre au nom du propri\u00e9taire et indiquer le lieu de situation des travaux, c\u2019est-\u00e0-dire l\u2019adresse du logement mis en location et non pas celle o\u00f9 r\u00e9side le propri\u00e9taire. Les travaux ne doivent pas agrandir la surface ou le volume ni entra\u00eener un changement de destination, comme lorsqu\u2019on r\u00e9am\u00e9nage un grenier pour en faire une pi\u00e8ce de vie. <\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>Si les travaux sont parfaitement d\u00e9ductibles, il faut toutefois \u00eatre attentif \u00e0 leur d\u00e9nomination, pour \u00e9viter d\u2019attirer l\u2019attention du fisc inutilement. R\u00e9utiliser les termes employ\u00e9s par l\u2019administration fiscale (r\u00e9paration, entretien, am\u00e9lioration) lorsqu\u2019ils correspondent \u00e0 la nature des travaux permet d\u2019\u00e9viter ce type de probl\u00e8me.<\/em> \u00bb<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<p><strong>A lire \u00e9galement<\/strong><br \/>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/www.toutsurmesfinances.com\/impots\/location-meublee-ne-pas-declarer-comme-les-revenus-fonciers.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\"><strong>Location meubl\u00e9e : \u00ab Ne pas d\u00e9clarer comme les revenus fonciers \u00bb<\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n<\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/section>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>INTERVIEW La d\u00e9claration des revenus fonciers regorge de pi\u00e8ges pour les propri\u00e9taires. Cas particulier des copropri\u00e9t\u00e9s, d\u00e9ficit foncier reportable, appellation des travaux&#8230; les \u00e9clairages de H\u00e9l\u00e8ne Bouvignies, juriste en fiscalit\u00e9 immobili\u00e8re de la Chambre des propri\u00e9taires.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":13710,"featured_media":55006,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[10],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-55007","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-calcul"],"acf":[],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v24.9 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/wordpress\/plugins\/seo\/ -->\n<title>Revenus fonciers : \u00ab Ne pas d\u00e9duire les charges r\u00e9cup\u00e9rables \u00bb<\/title>\n<meta name=\"description\" content=\"La d\u00e9claration des revenus fonciers regorge de pi\u00e8ges pour les propri\u00e9taires. 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