{"id":16668,"date":"2011-06-09T15:14:42","date_gmt":"2011-06-09T13:14:42","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.toutsurmesfinances.com\/retraite\/retraites-a-l-etranger-les-controles-de-la-cnav-doivent-etre-ameliores.html"},"modified":"2021-12-08T15:17:09","modified_gmt":"2021-12-08T14:17:09","slug":"retraites-a-l-etranger-les-controles-de-la-cnav-doivent-etre-ameliores","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.toutsurmesfinances.com\/retraite\/retraites-a-l-etranger-les-controles-de-la-cnav-doivent-etre-ameliores.html","title":{"rendered":"Retrait\u00e9s \u00e0 l\u2019\u00e9tranger : les contr\u00f4les de la Cnav doivent \u00eatre am\u00e9lior\u00e9s"},"content":{"rendered":"<section class=\"l-section wpb_row height_small\"><div class=\"l-section-h i-cf\"><div class=\"g-cols vc_row via_flex valign_top type_default stacking_default\"><div class=\"vc_col-sm-12 wpb_column vc_column_container\"><div class=\"vc_column-inner\"><div class=\"wpb_wrapper\"><div class=\"wpb_text_column\"><div class=\"wpb_wrapper\"><p>La Caisse nationale d&rsquo;assurance vieillesse (Cnav) verse actuellement une pension \u00e0 1,1 million de retrait\u00e9s install\u00e9s \u00e0 l&rsquo;\u00e9tranger, dans 130 pays diff\u00e9rents. Ces retrait\u00e9s sont soit des Fran\u00e7ais qui vivent dans un autre pays, soit des \u00e9trangers qui ont travaill\u00e9 en France et sont revenus dans leur pays d&rsquo;origine. Ces paiements repr\u00e9sentent 8,5% des virements, mais seulement 3,5% des sommes pay\u00e9es. \u00ab La diff\u00e9rence s&rsquo;explique par le fait que les pensions vers\u00e9es \u00e0 l&rsquo;\u00e9tranger sont plus faibles que les retraites pay\u00e9es en France parce que les assur\u00e9s ont eu une carri\u00e8re moins compl\u00e8te, donc des dur\u00e9es de cotisations moins importantes et, bien souvent, des activit\u00e9s professionnelles moins r\u00e9mun\u00e9r\u00e9es que celles des retrait\u00e9s vivant en France \u00bb, explique Pierre Mayeur, directeur de la Cnav.<\/p>\n<p>Afin de lutter contre la fraude, \u00ab nous demandons des certificats d&rsquo;existence suivant une r\u00e9gularit\u00e9 qui varie en fonction des pays et qui doivent \u00eatre valid\u00e9s par les autorit\u00e9s locales \u00bb, poursuit le directeur de la Cnav. Les retrait\u00e9s ont deux mois pour retourner ce certificat \u00e0 leur caisse de retraite. \u00ab Si on ne re\u00e7oit pas ce papier ou si on a un doute, on suspend le versement de la pension \u00bb, pr\u00e9cise Pierre Mayeur.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Exp\u00e9rimentation de contr\u00f4les en Tunisie<br \/>\n<\/strong>Ainsi en 2010, sur 5000 v\u00e9rifications, la Cnav a proc\u00e9d\u00e9 \u00e0 3200 suspensions, dont 16% correspondaient \u00e0 des d\u00e9c\u00e8s constat\u00e9s. Pour 33% des suspensions, des r\u00e9clamations de justificatifs d&rsquo;\u00e9tat civil sont en cours de traitement.<\/p>\n<p>Le directeur de la Cnav reconna\u00eet toutefois que \u00ab le syst\u00e8me est moins s\u00e9curisant et moins s\u00e9curis\u00e9 \u00bb \u00e0 l&rsquo;\u00e9tranger : \u00ab Quand une personne meurt en France, on a une remont\u00e9e de cette information de la part de l&rsquo;Insee, de fa\u00e7on automatique. Nous n&rsquo;avons pas le m\u00eame syst\u00e8me \u00e0 l&rsquo;\u00e9tranger. Il est n\u00e9cessaire d&rsquo;apporter des s\u00e9curit\u00e9s suppl\u00e9mentaires. \u00bb<\/p>\n<p>La Cnav r\u00e9fl\u00e9chit donc \u00e0 des am\u00e9liorations, comme le fait de disposer du nom de la personne de l&rsquo;autorit\u00e9 locale qui valide le certificat d&rsquo;existence, ce qui n&rsquo;est pas le cas actuellement. Elle envisage \u00e9galement d&rsquo;effectuer des contr\u00f4les sur place via un organisme local qui aurait re\u00e7u l&rsquo;agr\u00e9ment du consulat fran\u00e7ais. Une exp\u00e9rimentation en ce sens devrait \u00eatre men\u00e9e en Tunisie, pays choisi pour son territoire restreint et o\u00f9 le \u00ab gouvernement n&rsquo;\u00e9tait pas hostile \u00bb \u00e0 ce type de contr\u00f4le. En Tunisie, la Cnav verse une pension \u00e0 31 643 retrait\u00e9s (soit 2,56% des retrait\u00e9s de l&rsquo;\u00e9tranger).<\/p>\n<\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/div><\/section>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Plus d&rsquo;un million de retrait\u00e9s vivent \u00e0 l&rsquo;\u00e9tranger et per\u00e7oivent une pension vers\u00e9e par la Caisse nationale d&rsquo;assurance retraite (Cnav). 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