{"id":18075,"date":"2012-07-23T07:53:21","date_gmt":"2012-07-23T05:53:21","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.toutsurmesfinances.com\/retraite\/la-cnav-et-l-agirc-arrco-se-coordonnent-pour-signaler-les-demandes-de-retraite.html"},"modified":"2012-12-12T15:40:42","modified_gmt":"2012-12-12T15:40:42","slug":"la-cnav-et-l-agirc-arrco-se-coordonnent-pour-signaler-les-demandes-de-retraite","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.toutsurmesfinances.com\/retraite\/la-cnav-et-l-agirc-arrco-se-coordonnent-pour-signaler-les-demandes-de-retraite.html","title":{"rendered":"La Cnav et l\u2019Agirc-Arrco se coordonnent pour signaler les demandes de retraite"},"content":{"rendered":"\n

Depuis le 9 juillet 2012, vous ne risquez plus de demander votre retraite personnelle au r\u00e9gime g\u00e9n\u00e9ral de base en omettant d’effectuer cette m\u00eame d\u00e9marche aupr\u00e8s des r\u00e9gimes compl\u00e9mentaires, ou l’inverse. La Caisse nationale d’assurance vieillesse (Cnav) et les r\u00e9gimes Agirc (cadres) et Arrco (salari\u00e9s) se coordonnent pour se signaler mutuellement les d\u00e9p\u00f4ts de demande de retraite personnelle.<\/p>\n

La circulaire n\u00b02012-57 du 23 juillet apporte des pr\u00e9cisions sur le fonctionnement de ce syst\u00e8me. Elle rappelle tout d’abord qu’il s’agit d’\u00e9viter aux salari\u00e9s d’oublier de d\u00e9poser leur demande aupr\u00e8s de l’un au l’autre des r\u00e9gimes mais aussi de \u00ab pr\u00e9server le point de d\u00e9part de ces retraites en tenant compte de la date de la premi\u00e8re manifestation aupr\u00e8s du premier r\u00e9gime contact\u00e9 \u00bb.<\/p>\n

<\/span>Les demandes de r\u00e9version exclues<\/span><\/h2>\n

Ces \u00e9changes ne concernent pour le moment que les demandes de retraite personnelle de droits directs provenant des assur\u00e9s ou des repr\u00e9sentants l\u00e9gaux (tuteurs, curateurs, et personnes disposant d’un mandat sp\u00e9cial d\u00e9livr\u00e9 par le juge des tutelles cas d’une sauvegarde de justice) r\u00e9sidant en France m\u00e9tropolitaine et disposant d’un num\u00e9ro de s\u00e9curit\u00e9 sociale (NIR). Ils excluent donc les demandes de pension de r\u00e9version, les demandes issues d’assur\u00e9s vivant \u00e0 l’\u00e9tranger, dans un d\u00e9partement ou une collectivit\u00e9 d’Outre-mer, les demandes de personnes n’ayant pas de num\u00e9ro de s\u00e9curit\u00e9 sociale ou encore les demandes de mandataires autres que les repr\u00e9sentants l\u00e9gaux cit\u00e9s pr\u00e9c\u00e9demment.<\/p>\n

Concr\u00e8tement, \u00ab lors de l’enregistrement d’une demande de retraite personnelle au r\u00e9gime g\u00e9n\u00e9ral (…) un signalement est transmis par le syst\u00e8me d’information via le centre informatique de Tours \u00e0 destination du centre informatique de l’Agirc\/Arrco \u00bb. Ce signalement est soumis \u00e0 un accord pr\u00e9alable de l’assur\u00e9. Un cadre est ainsi pr\u00e9vu \u00e0 cet effet dans l’imprim\u00e9 de demande de retraite.<\/p>\n

<\/span>R\u00e9ciprocit\u00e9 du dispositif<\/span><\/h2>\n

Le dispositif fonctionne \u00e9galement dans l’autre sens, puisque l’Agirc-Arrco peut envoyer au r\u00e9gime g\u00e9n\u00e9ral une alerte d’enregistrement de demande de retraite compl\u00e9mentaire personnelle avec l’accord de l’assur\u00e9. \u00ab Le r\u00e9gime g\u00e9n\u00e9ral, apr\u00e8s avoir v\u00e9rifi\u00e9 qu’il n’existe pas de demande enregistr\u00e9e au nom de l’assur\u00e9 lui adresse l’imprim\u00e9 ad\u00e9quat accompagn\u00e9 d’un courrier l’invitant \u00e0 d\u00e9poser sa demande \u00bb, explique la circulaire.<\/p>\n

Dans ce second cas, la date de r\u00e9ception de la demande aupr\u00e8s des r\u00e9gimes compl\u00e9mentaires doit \u00eatre retenue pour fixer la date d’effet de la pension du r\u00e9gime g\u00e9n\u00e9ral, \u00e0 condition toutefois que l’imprim\u00e9 r\u00e9glementaire de demande de retraite du r\u00e9gime g\u00e9n\u00e9ral ait \u00e9t\u00e9 d\u00e9pos\u00e9 \u00ab dans le d\u00e9lai de trois mois suivant la date \u00e0 laquelle il aura \u00e9t\u00e9 envoy\u00e9 \u00e0 l’assur\u00e9. \u00bb<\/p>\n

>> En savoir plus pour pr\u00e9parer sa retraite avant 60 ans<\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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